the CVA electra, CVA optima, CVA wolf, Thompson Center Impact. whats an all around good muzzle loader for the price.
The one you make yourself. Google: black powder muzzleloader rifle kits.
I'm no muzzle loader expert but I think the CVA Apex is better than those.....a while back I remember a article about that in.....I think it was American Rifleman or Guns and Ammo (I read so many I forget) but it was a credible magazine review and it was all praises for that gun....
