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is a Twisted copper full cheek snaffle a little extreme or a good idea for a very strong horse?

I have a belgian/tb cross, a really sweet guy, but very unresponsive to my seat, OR the bit. We have been working in mostly just the trot since I got him in October, trying to balance and respond and be more light in the forehand, but I STILL feel totally out of balance and like he‘s forgotten about me sometimes. I evented on my last horse, but I‘ve barely started jumping on my new guy because I know from experience how dangerous and uncomfortable jumping can be when your out of balance on the forehand. I have tried a single jointed dee ring, single jointed loose ring, KK correction and a french link eggbutt but he barely notices the change! I‘m thinking that this bit will make him more sensitive in the mouth, and hopefully to me in general, so that my seat will work better. Is this a good idea?-I did try a pelham for a while, and he became very light and balanced (!!) but my leasor would prefer if I kept my horse in a snaffle, and I would as well.

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A full cheek snaffle is an excellent bit for a hot horse. The keepers add a little pressure to the poll and a little leverage as well. A slow twist Dr. Bristol can be a good choice for the mouthpiece. The Dr. B looks a lot like the French Link, but the little bean doesn't lay flat. It's comfortable in the mouth until you need it, then it gets their attention a little bit. It works on the tongue. The twist works on the lips and bars, the same way. The twisted bits are not dressage legal. I use a Full Cheek Dr. Bristol on my event horse - he's very hot and forward, which is fine, and I think I hurt his mouth less by getting and keeping his attention then I would by hauling away on the mildest snaffle. The Bouchers are allowed in dressage rings. Like the full cheek, you get a little leverage and a little extra pressure on the poll. I wouldn't go with the french link - your horse is likely to ignore it as he does now. The full cheek and bauchers are about as strong as you can get in the dressage arena. I've had a number of horses tht responded much better in a pelham; for those I've schooled in the pelham and switched to a mullen mouth snaffle for the event. often the horse doesn't realize I've switched bits until afterwards. Good Luck! Edit: A good event horse is gung ho and forward. You don't want to school their enthusiasm out. You want them engaged and thinking and brave, with more go than whoa.
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I know a friend who used that. Her horse was an OTTB who had the power to jump past Prelim. And was rather wild. I would try something a bit less, if you could. If you must use it, could you try to work toward weaning off of it and back to something a tad less? You might still have to use it for cross-country and Stadium, but if you can not use it at home, its a improvement. And remember that how harsh a bit is is dependant upon how the rider rides. And you seem to be forgetting your legs- it can't be all hand and seat, thats actually rather incorrect. They say you should use just as much leg as you pull on the reins- Its hard to convince yourself of, but in the end it works. And Im pretty sure the french link is allowed- I used it at a recognized show this summer and it was fine. I mean, check the USEF, but Im pretty sure its ok.
bad idea for any horse. There is no such thing as a strong horse. It is just a horse that needs help - better training and less abuse in his mouth. Horses that are unresponsive have probably become dull from incessant nagging, inadequate communication, too many riders that thin all horses know the same cues, and lack of proper escalation of aids. A horse can move minute areas of skin to flick off a fly. To think that they have lost their feel or sensitivity is ridiculous and incorrect. The type or harshness of the bit is irrelevant. There are many things that sound as if they need attention, but the type of bit is not one of them. Get some proper assistance if you do not feel you can accomplish your goals on your own. You want your contact with your horse to be as light as possible - 2-3 ozs. of pressure. If you can't achieve this, more training is needed for both of you. A snaffle bit can be very harsh in inexperienced hands. It is intended to be used one rein at a time. Pulling on two reins, the snaffle acts like a nutcracker on the horse's bars and send the joint of the snaffe stabbing into the soft palate - horrible for the horse. Myler makes a nice level one snaffle that is excellent for the horse and makes it much safer for the horse's mouth as it prevents so much pain if someone gets off balance for has heavy hands. A change in bit will not have any effect on the horse's response to your seat. Just doesn't make any sense. Try to help this little horse. Improvement will not be achieved through repeated changes in mechanical devices.
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