Okay so if I were wanting to escape the violence of anarchy, because the USA government falls and the world becomes smothered in a nuclear war, how much would it cost to build an underground bunker, maybe 100 ft underground, the size of a 4 bedroom 2 bathroom house, with only an elevator shaft leading to the underground house? Also, what possible problems would there be? Earthquakes?What area would be best to build it? Somewhere isolated up in the northwest USA?Would it be possible to have self sustaining air, food, power, sewage, etc.?
No our recent decades of warming have come about by extreme solar activity (modern solar maximum) the most activity for the last 9000yrsCO2 has limits in it's ability to heat our atmosphere, this is known to climate scientists but they hypothesized that there would be a positive feedback from water vapor, this did not happen instead there were lots of negative feedbacks like increasing cloud cover and so onThe sun is now entering a quieter period (solar minimum) but CO2 is still rising so the next few years will tell whether it is the sun or CO2, in fact there has been no warming for the last 15yrs.
Well doneBut doesn't this show how much w learn when we enter into a proper scientific debate?
There have been many bunkers built on a smaller small during the 50's like the one in Blast from the Past movieI'm not sure it would depend on your air and water filtration system and how long you plan to be down thereThere was a large bunker built under a hotel in Virginia decades ago to house the US Congress but it was abandonded as obsoleteIMO you'd want a contrator that knew how to reinforce it like we do in California, and maybe go for a concrete domed design like the ones you see in Popular MechanicsI remember (true story) my cousin found an abandoned nuclear silo access, the catacombs streached for miles, multiple levels, all we had were flashlights to see and sometimes there were holes in the floorWe actually stumbled upon what could only have been the room where the actual missile was housed Also see: SAC Cheyenne Mountain edit: there are very small pre fab rooms that can be buried underground for this kind of thing, idk where to get them, saw them on tv
I thought that believers (including yourself) were confidently reporting upper atmospheric cooling as irrefutable evidence of a greenhouse effect, until some skeptics pointed out that that was contradictory to every single model used by the IPCC and in fact without significant upper atmospheric warming, the greenhouse theory falls apart Now the faithful are proclaiming 'god damn satellites - can't trust a thing they tell you.' (edit) I'm not confused, I just don't share your beliefsThe published IPCC models predict peak warming at 10km which is in the stratosphere I haven't heard any serious researcher claim that the troposphere warming faster than the surface is consistent with increased solar radianceI would expect that directly warming the surface causes the most warming on the surface and I haven't seen any serious research that disputes thatI think you've heard some damage control spin from believers along the lines of 'Increased upper troposphere warming is consistent with other forms of warming' and filled in the rest with your imagination(edit) WhateverYou're happy to believe that the stratosphere is cooling, but you're not happy to believe that the upper troposphere is cooling because satellites can measure one but not the other You would probably stop believing in stratospheric cooling if you knew that the IPCC's accepted climate models predict that it should warm.
It is another example that those that think there is a consensus are incorrectIt also demonstrates that there is much more that we don't understand about the climate than what is already understood.
